Sunday, April 11, 2010

Test Driving Threads (Part One)


When I made the long drive to the Woodlawn Plantation exhibit, I took along a list of DMC colors to use to pull the threads I didn't have in my stash already for the Stuart Plaid Lion ornament.  I was particularly looking for threads that matched the dark and bright reds in the plaid area of the ornament.  I searched In Stitches, Needlewoman East, and Waste Knot the same way-- I pulled out my list of DMC colors, then found the two skeins of DMC cotton floss in each shop that were on my list.  Then I could carry the DMC around each shop, matching shades of red in order to pick something I thought would work with the threads I already have for this project.  Once I had found (or not found) something, I could return the DMC floss to its home on the shop shelves.

I ended up with three red threads for the plaid--two red Trios and a red Kreinik #12 metallic.  Trio is a silk and wool blend that can be stranded like Paternayan into three plies.  It is made by Brown Paper Packages, the company that sells Silk & Ivory.  Silk & Ivory is a silk/marino wool tapestry thread that is not dividable.   It is a little too fat for 18 count canvas, so Brown Paper Packages came out with Trio which can be used on 13 count (all three strands) or on 18 count (one or two strands).  Except for the thread being dividable or not, Silk & Ivory and Trio are identical.
http://www.brownpaperpackages.com/

I choose two shades of red in Trio--Really Red #T312 and Burgundy T324.  You can see them both in the Wine Red section of the Brown Paper Packages website.  The color numbers differ online because the threads pictured are the tapestry wool Silk & Ivory line, not the Trio.  I haven't stitched with Trio before so I am eager to try this thread.
http://www.brownpaperpackages.com/colors_Reds.htm


I also bought a spool of the new Kreinik holographic thread in size #12, color 003L which is a ruby red (it's called Robot Red).  Here is information about the threads and small squares of the color on the Kreinik website.  If you can enlarge the page, do so to see the colors better.
http://www.kreinik.com/feature.htm

A few days after my trip, I got an email out of the blue from Dena Lenham of Kreinik asking me if I would like a little of the new holographic thread to play with.  I asked for a second spool of my holographic ruby thread in #8 braid.  I was a bit afraid that #12 was going to be too fat as it really was intended for 13 count canvases.  The Stuart Plaid Lion is on 18 count.  My envelope from Dena arrived last week and I was amazed to find the entire line of #8 braid and also the entire set of 1/16 inch holographic ribbon inside!  Thank you, Dena!  Blog's readers are very grateful that you sent all this for review purposes.

In the photo above, the #8 braid set is on top and the 1/16" ribbon on the bottom.  My #12 spool is in the middle.  The colors are a bit brighter in the holographic ribbon as it is shinier than the braids, whether they are #8 or #12 braid.  But the reds are identical across all three sizes otherwise and the other colors seem to be the same in #8 and 1/16 inch ribbon.  It is just that the ribbon thread shows the holographic Mylar better so it has more reflective ability.

In both photos you can see the frayed cut end of my #12 braid spool, and how curly the thread is when it first comes off the spool.  The curl stays in the thread longer than a perm stays in my hair!  I suggest you cut a twelve inch length, then grasp each end and pull hard.  That will straighten it some. If you use too long a length, the curl will start to kink and knot somewhere in the middle.  Even pulled and stretched, the curl remains and might cause problems in a longer strand.  The curl isn't as prominent in the 1/16 inch ribbon but a short length is still a good idea.  The ribbon will twist and has to be laid to make sure it is flat so that the light will bounce off it well and shine.  I find it easier to lay a thread that isn't too long a length since I only have two hands, one for the threaded needle and one for the laying tool.

I've also decided that once you cut a length and tie a knot, you should trim the raw end past the knot as close to the knot as you can.  The end will splay out into the elements that make up the thread and those loose ends can be pulled into the front as you stitch.

This message is getting a bit long so tomorrow I'll post about actually using these two new threads as I began stitching the plaid area.

Janet Perry has written a review of these new holographic threads.  Here's the link so you can read what she says about them.
http://www.coolcraftsites.com/2010/nuts-about-needlepoint/kreinik’s-holographic-threads-–-product-review/

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5 comments:

Donna said...

Have you stitched with plied Trio before? I'm interested in your impressions. I'm finding it very difficult to ply as this is my substitute for the JL Walsh silk and wool on my version of Stars. Once I do get it plied, it just seems extremely fuzzy. I've now settled on a combination of Trio if it's a bottom layer of many layers or Burmilana if it's not on the bottom.

Anonymous said...

I didn't realize Trio was stranded when I first tried it. Not only is it good to read the tag, it's important to know how to apply that information. I practiced with the 3-ply as it came on my 18 count canvas & wondered why it was so difficult work with. Luckily, I went back to Fireside Stitchery looking for additional threads, showed Betsy what I was working on, & she immedietly suggested I try splitting Trio into three plies. So, my lesson was learned before I got started for real (on my Penguins) & it reinforces the value spent in "practice" time. I'm sure you know not to use too long of a piece of thread because of the wear. Enjoy.

The Chilly Hollow Needlepoint Adventure said...

Yes, Melita, I have discovered that Trio wears a lot as it goes through the canvas. It doesn't shred or anything but the last few inches are definitely effected and have to be cut off. It actually can be split into 6 plies but I'd be hesitant to do so just because the thread is delicate. Working with one of the three main parts does nice tent stitches on 18 count but I used two of the three main parts for most of the stitches on my piece on the tartan area.

The Chilly Hollow Needlepoint Adventure said...

Donna, I've not used Trio before. It easily splits into 3 groups of two plies each and I am using either one or two of the three groups in lengths of about 12 inches to stitch. I wouldn't think splitting it into 6 plies would work very well although you will get a ply much closer to the size of Jl Walsh silk/wool that way. I don't think the thread structure holds up well when split into 6 plies. Three plies are better. This is a merino wool/silk blend, as well. I find it much fuzzier than other wool/silk blends are.

Gloriana's Lorikeet is a better substitute for JL Walsh even though it is 100 % wool. Burmilana will work well also, even though it's a bit bigger.

NCPat said...

You were certainly busy finding the fibers. I love all the Kreinik holographic and can't wait to see how they stitch up!